This muffler is only 2" shorter than the stock muffler on my old 2000 Land Rover Discovery, I knew that when I ordered it. I had already removed the stock resonator about a year before installing the Magnaflow 12586. I was looking for a little more rumble and the 12586 barely delivers it, if someone changed that muffler without my knowledge I'm not sure I would have noticed the difference. If you are looking for real sound I would go for the 18". Magnaflow. The welds look very clean, the muffler looks great if there is such a thing.
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