I bought these to install a new water softener. I used a rigid pipe cutter, deburred the inside of the pipe, cleaned the outside of the copper pipe, and they stood up straight away and worked great - no leaks. Now with that said would I use these shark bite type hardware in the wall? Probably not, simply because the o-ring will break over time and I find it useful to visually inspect these types of fittings over time.
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