As other reviewers have mentioned, they are too loose. So when you sit in your seat in the boat, you are always a little wobbly. If they use a heavy duty nylon strap and suspect the insert tube is a bit closer to the mounting tube, it wouldn't be so damn wobbly. It really isn't rocket science. But there aren't any competitors that I can find, so here it is. are they decent yes they are decent They do their job.
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