This is mostly my fault I think, but when I'm looking for something to widen my fenders a bit so the dirt and grime can clear it dont get off my extended wheels on my mk4 vw gli i found them. They seemed perfect for what I wanted and I saw the lipless versions of them and thought they were talking about real lips on the extenders themselves as an aesthetic thing. When I finally got them I put them on the car and found that the lack of a lip or lip means you either have a 90 degree bend in your fenders on your car that they will fit, or you won't . and of course my car doesn't have that so there's nothing to attach them to. really messed around because they looked AMAZING when they were taken to my car. exactly what i wanted wanted to go back and get the others but i'm pretty sure the other one is the lipless version you have to drill right onto the outside of the e-fender. And I won't go that far I'm hoping that when summer comes I'll figure out how to attach them. but they are very heavy, very thick and hard. basically looks like a plastic or rigid body panel from a few feet away, even up close. It's good
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