So a few months ago I got these pants as my first pair of pants as a new rider. not sure what to expect. I wanted the mesh for fair weather riding in warm weather and also because I plan to ALWAYS wear safety gear while riding. Road rash hurts and I hope it never happens again after driving when I was younger. :) I followed the recommendations and ordered by the length of my inseam, not the size chart. Bingo! I ordered medium high. and the waist size for me was about the biggest space in the belt (my waist is 32-33 inches). I've been riding it for almost two months now and wear it over jeans or shorts. In the first few weeks I noticed that the pad on my left knee pulled up a bit when I sat on the bike. and figured that the approachable nature of these pants probably meant some unevenness in the fit/finish. Finally I looked at her, and lo and behold. Pillow height is adjustable. So I adjusted my left side. The problem is solved! So do I recommend them? Absolutely! Are those $300 jodhpurs? nope! Have I tested the drop resistance? I hope never! However, they look brand new after 45 days of riding and I would buy them in a heartbeat if I did it again! Very happy with this product!
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