I bought them a size up for my son, he is a size 3 so I ordered a size 4 to allow for thicker socks. The boots themselves fit well, they ran small considering I ordered a size up, but the liner was so small I couldn't fit in unless they were in the boot let alone what's inside the boot found. I tried the liner of my daughter's old LL Bean boots the same size and they fit his foot and boot but I couldn't get his feet in when they were in the boot. Because of the shape of the boot, they were very difficult to put on. All in all I was very disappointed with this purchase.
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