I've used the upper body option for a while, went out in the -10F winter with two or three pleats and then a nice sweater, hoping to get the equivalent of a pair of pants Find. I only have a pair of these, but walking in the desert my feet get a bit warm, and these plus simple jeans are enough to keep me warm and comfortable even in sub-zero temperatures, as long as I can sweat them, and afterwards you will not freeze like cotton does. Another important note about these items, or their torso counterpart, is how well they control body odor. It's amazing. This makes them the best pants for winter hiking. Some will say they're quite expensive - true, but they're worth every penny.
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