So I took his advice and bought a pack of these. Also acts on his perseverance (after retirement, of course, too long a story for that). It's true what he says, they're tough and stand up to punishment. I use them when welding and they mark the iron very well which is visible under the hood. Solid pen/marker and cool clip. Family business MADE IN USA. fooled around about it. Do that. Maybe someday I'll post pics. If not, take these markers.
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