I had access to the attic next to the garage to see where the screws go. They worked great for me since the brace is built into the 2x4. I like the height just enough to clear my head but stretch out my hand to reach things. Not heavy but I wouldn't load it with compression wood, I have six 2x4x8's on one side and 4 rods/reels on the other. If the placement does not involve posts/beams, you can add one above or below the ceiling first.
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