So far these socks have been pretty good. The bottom is padded so my feet feel pretty good all day long. And even after they've been washed and dried, they'll still be bigger, maybe shrinking an inch; but they started out about three inches longer than I needed (at 12ft tall) so they're still pretty long. My only complaint so far is that the elastic at the top around the back of the knee is too tight, so I have to roll the top up a bit. If you have large calves (and I don't) then they will probably be too tight for you.
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