I have my first router Bought and this bit set (17702q) a few months ago and for my needs these things worked much better than expected. I wasn't sure I needed such a large set (especially the classic Ogee bits) but decided to get one anyway to play around with all the bit types and hopefully learn more about my router's capabilities. That's exactly what happened, can't be anymore, I bought a big set. I haven't used all of them yet, but if I have them and know what they do, I know how to plan projects to use them. Now I can easily make simple connections for boxes, and the tenon mounts themselves have proven incredibly useful. All cut well and stay sharp for some time. Seriously opened up a whole new set of possibilities for me.