I usually get good results with imported consumables but these are an exception. The gas lenses themselves are complete crap, something in their design causes them to have unshielded tungsten parts that cause oxidation even inside the cup and I'm running at a rate of 30 cubic feet per hour since I'm mostly welding stainless steel. The only reason I gave two stars is because the collets, cups and pyrex are still decent. But don't be surprised if your gas lenses cause tungsten to oxidize.