For the price they are great. They are also good at a higher price. I used both flash (with adapter) and flash. GOOD TO KNOW: If you're shooting on a budget, you need to get yourself some sturdy lighting stands. They're not too heavy for what they are, but they're too heavy for lightweight $15-20 racks. My $50 Neweer tripod works great (so a mid-range tripod is good for photographers on a budget).
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