I sent almost everything back. I wore socks the first few times I used them. After taking off my socks, they are now my favorites. I found they appear to be about 1/2 small. So if you want to wear socks with it. Buy 1/2 to 1 foot more. I also believe that these shoes will remain in fashion. I'm a retired Navy man and I won't lie. I paid full price. NO deal to review.Ken