I've barely seen the rings of Saturn at 20mm, I had to use 10mm, it seems 2.5x stronger - still a beginner lol. My old computerized Celestron 102 had a Barlow add-on so you could actually see Saturn's rings clearly. More expensive and more difficult to set up, it's easy and you only use the Red Dot Finder Scope anyway. Don't forget to turn it off. The iPhone app works well EXCEPT for having to line up the damn thing in the dark when moving the telescope for example when you're camping and can't get out for hours.
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