Ever since my neighbor... a few mornings... burned down a hood and about 4 feet of his expensive double wall chimney, I've been a lot more careful with my wood burning stoves. I use both creosote and soot remover so this review covers both as I really can't tell them apart with the lid off the jars. These bins are pits, and unless you're expecting this thing to fall on you, removing these lids without spilling them is going to be a problem, so I always wear gloves and put something underneath to catch poop. I add them to a hot oven just before I let them burn out overnight and it's not easy to throw this thing at it and as soon as it hits it gives off a cloud of smoke which irritates my throat and makes me cough because I it throws and hits . The breath hold door doesn't always work as planned because I have to redo it for the second product. While the soot falls out of the tubes and is easier to clean, the tubes never look the same as they did before and after being burned from a container of creosote. Using them makes me feel better, but a good drain cleaning every summer makes me feel a lot better than tossing those things in my ovens about 3-4 times a week. Unlike my neighbor, I only burn dried wood, and because it's pine or cedar (there's no hardwood here in Idaho), it always lasts at least 2 years from sawing/splitting before going into the kiln. . I only burn about cord+ together and my neighbor makes 5 cords and his firewood goes from delivery to burning. When you have a lot of soot and/or creosote the problem is often what you are burning in the chimney and/or pipe assembly... but it is usually wood and even if seasoned it should be kept under a cover to keep it dry . . Improperly seasoned wood gives off gases and burns poorly, and adding something to the fire isn't going to solve the unseasoned wood problem to any great extent. At around $19 each, it was worth making sure I was doing something to minimize buildup in the tubes, but the soot remover did nothing to reduce soot in the combustion chamber, but that's to be expected, when the smoke rises Nothing compares or precludes an annual brushing through the tubes and some kind of combustion chamber cleaner in my opinion. Both products contain magnesium acetate and trisodium phosphate, but the soot remover also contains copper sulphate as the first ingredient. So what can a creosote remover do that a soot remover cannot? Both are also points to avoid skin and eye contact, as well as warnings about cancer and reproductive function. I love the 'spreading on the coals' part, but that means you put your hand in a hot metal stove without banging your hand on anything and when he touches the coals a puff of smoke comes out so I pop that open door and throw it, and that's not without problems either. I've found that putting a scoop of each on my ash shovel and tossing it near the back of the stove now works best. If I have to go on the roof and open the lid to see what the pipes look like I can clean them out so I really don't think these products will do as much for me as they do for the ones on fire. much larger and/or has some raw wood. Nothing to criticize, but the description for the creosote remover says "2 lb container - up to 16 uses (including 1 ounce scoop)" but the packaging says one 1 ounce scoop per treatment is to be used, so that's 32 methods of two pound containers. The description for the rust remover says "12-16 treatments per pound" but the package says to use 1/4 scoop so that's 128 treatments. The container is worth reading more than the description on this page and the few times I've used four times what I should have been using to remove soot it may have been part of a throat irritation and cough. I see other reviews saying it's very popular, but from what I've seen it might help a little, but it's certainly not a miracle cure for drain cleaning problems, and after a throat irritation that lasts until the next day, I'm I'm not sure if I'm inclined to buy it again, so the best I can say is that everything is fine. If I continue to use something it will most likely just be a soot remover as it's only 1/4 cup per application and also contains the main ingredient in creosote remover (which is why I gave it 4 stars) so this should help crap, by turning it into powder, and since I don't burn tons of wood, one product should serve both purposes...I think.
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