I have been using B-nox (Bullnox) for years. I never got tired of it. I'm really surprised to hear people aren't taking advantage of it. I think if it doesn't then you have an adrenal problem and should probably see a nutritionist or doctor. This is how people overdose on caffeine and stimulants and then their hearts explode. You probably shouldn't be on stimulants, period. I literally only need exactly 1/4 of a serving and that's enough for a workout and for the evening and even keeps me up at night sometimes. I think I'm lucky. This thing lives with me forever. Of course, no one needs pre-training. Most people are just addicted. You can work out longer on an apple than on a stimulant-packed pre-workout because, unlike an apple, a pre-workout continues to force your heart to do unnecessary work between rest periods, tiring you out prematurely. This is another mistake people make. They do too much and it tires their heart prematurely and then they claim it's not working or that they need to do more, which only makes the situation worse. Fruit punch is definitely the best flavor here. i love this stuff I have goosebumps!
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