Great product, that's the only reason it gets 2 stars. They will not stop you unless you are driving on a level surface 5 school bus lengths from the stop. I bought them because we usually ride in deep mud and the standard pads are enough for one ride. Wet, dry or dirty, they don't last. They don't wear out, but if you're just not looking for pedal feel that you can brake, this is for you. Decent climbs with both feet on the pedal, basically standing on it to slow things down. Lesson learned.