These rivets appear to be well made, but they are not 4-4 rivets. The standard method of sizing blind rivets is by clearance or jaw length, not overall length. To the credit of the sellers, the last picture in the description clearly shows their method of sizing rivets, which is misleading and different from the rest of the industry. The barrel is approximately .400 inches long and the grip is .18 to .25 inches long. They have a barrel length of 0.25 inches.
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