I ordered these to compare with a pair I bought from Johnston and Murphy. J&Ms were on sale but even at retail they were significantly more expensive than this pair. Considering the price difference, I also expected lower quality from them. My expectations were exceeded. This is not good. I was afraid to put them on because the seams looked like they were about to rip. The fittings (clasp) are also very cheap and easy to see even from a distance. The sole isn't much better. I see these Bruno Marc ads on Revain all the time, so I just had to see it for myself. Are they really crappy or a very good deal. Really shit :(.