They hold doors securely and don't bother. The flag details are engraved on them and they come with stick-on covers to protect the paintwork on the doors. I screwed 2x12 screws to the joists and attached the brackets with some wood screws (a bit stronger than regular wood screws). I placed them 37 inches center to center. They are strong enough that I can pull up with 2 of them. I weigh 175 pounds. I had several people in the neighborhood asking if I could help them do this for them. This is a great simple product at an affordable price.
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