These are great markers really. The black is better than Sharpie black IMO. I got them to redo black lines on a huge whiteboard. You can really lay it down wet if you want, I did. The lines turned out better than ever, they actually dried wet/glossy looking. I did coat it about 2 times. The only reason I'm giving 4 starts is because the first marker that I used started leaking badly from around the writing part of the marker. So bad I had to throw it out. I've used 3 other makers since and haven't had that issue again. They do last foooorrrrreeeeevvvveeeeerrrr! And I will vouch for the not drying out part. The lid was off of 1 of the markers for almost a whole day, and I was still able to get glossy lines out of it. I'd definetly recommend, just watch the leaking. I feel like this ink is more permanent than Sharpies too!
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