I like the Pentax are ok but these are just ok to be honest. 8x is a sharp but very narrow image. In my experience, being away makes the prospect annoying. Because of such a narrow field of view, it would take me a special need to grab them and go. More than 12x the magnet - it's just mmm. Slightly grainy and blurry with a slight fish eye feel. a little sensitive. Little useless feeling. Maybe even a little cheap. I'm keeping them, but like I said honestly, they're fine.
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