I took measurements but will still be using the frog strap on the vase I bought it for. I might be better off using a little more if I find one. The opening of the vase is wide, and you can only slightly bend the rim down to stabilize it. Only 3 long artificial sticks were used and had to be properly balanced to keep the lightweight frog from slipping sideways. A smaller vase with stems will most likely work.
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