I didn't buy them for climbing and I have no mountaineering or climbing experience. Instead, I bought these to use with my kids' tree swings. We used a 10 foot tree swing strap, which was the longest I could find, but the branch height still required about 20 feet of chain. The strap came with a good quality carabiner but I needed it to attach the chain to the swivel and the swivel to the mesh swing rings. They worked great and I liked the lock feature for added security.
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