Bought a 235/85 R16 for my 2000 F250 Super Duty Diesel truck. I had custom rivets, the original rivet pattern was ridiculous at best. Update: after use (with aftermarket spike pattern). For the length of an Alaskan winter that included standing water on icy back roads, icy stretches of freeway, and cutting through 2 feet of snow, this was a champ. I usually drive 75-150 miles a day to work, they drive very well.