This defeats the purpose of being truly hub oriented when there is a lot of play. At least the bolts also true the wheel. The hub will never be true to true and I have vibrations in excess of 60. I just did my own tire and wheel alignments so I can safely narrow down to the ones causing vibration. They look good and the screws, while cheaper, are good enough for everyday use. They are definitely lighter than the original screws, which is a bit of a concern. Don't take them to the track.