I was excited to get these and try them. I read many reviews on these that recommended going a size up--even a couple that recommended going two sizes up for the right fit. I am a fifty-year-old man, weighing in at 164lbs with a 32 inch waist. I usually wear mediums, went with the reviews that suggested going two sizes up, and ordered XL.They were definitely way too big for me, so if you have an average build like I do, don't order two sizes up! What killed this purchase for me, though, was the See full review