The first kickflip out of the box unbuttoned all side seams!?! I haven't worn DC in 15 years but I remember they were once very durable. I only find the seams decorative, nothing is falling apart yet. A bit stiff and clunky, but this is old-school DC. I had to exchange them for a half size larger than I usually wear as they run small. Great board feel and padding! Let's see how long they last. Drive every day, update after 6 months.