These plates should not have been labeled as they are not flat plates but flat bowls. They are listed as 8 1/2 cymbals, but the flat surface used is 6 1/2 inches, as are the smaller cymbals you can buy. They are about 1-1/4 inches deep. The sides are thin and light, but the bottom is thicker and stronger. On the plus side, they can still be useful but for smaller items than intended, and a taller side can help keep groceries and snacks from spilling. But the rating is lower because the information is inaccurate. If you order an 8 1/2" platter, expect more surface area than a 6 1/2".
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