This is my 2nd pair of xl pants for my 6', 170lb self. Material on this pair is thicker than the first but not to the point of being excessively hot to wear. Pockets on these are deeper than on the thinner material pair, which I like, but my mobile phone fits in both. Elastic waste fits fine without having to tie the draw string. Pair #3 may be soon. Love 'em
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