I still have a pair of these in a different color and material. They are so comfortable that as soon as I saw them at an incredibly reasonable price I ordered them. These are the most comfortable golf shoes I've ever worn. They're so light it looks like you're wearing slippers (an old comfy pair). The cleatless system is excellent - better than other cleatless shoes I have. My only concern is if there will be a wear issue in the future, but at the expense of that. not a big concern. If you just don't like golf shoes without cleats (I can't imagine ever going back to soft cleats), I don't recommend the above shoes. I haven't actually tested the waterproofness of these shoes, but I have other fully waterproof shoes. I'm a big fan of Skechers in all my shoes.
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