For reference, these gloves were for my friend who is learning to weld with me but not small enough, middle finger is almost 3 1/2" and palm 4 1/2" wide. She needs at least 3 in the center and a 4 1/2" wide palm, just enough for me and my 3 3/4" wide palm. Please note that there is padding and my glove measurements are our outside measurements.At first I was jealous because they looked very cute.