Coming from an i7-4790K that I have on a 4.6GHz all core booster installed. This Ryzen chip gives me much smoother frame rates in games, Windows loads faster, and the stock cooler is actually pretty reliable. There are basically no complaints about the chip. If you mainly use gaming, there's really no reason to buy the 8-core or 12-core versions. At $200 and $250, the 3600 and 3600X are fantastic prices. You get really good performance at prices that Intel can't even come close to without losing their shirt. My problem is that older motherboards are being updated to recognize this new generation of AMD processors. In short, it's crap. If you're trying to save money by buying an upgradeable B450 motherboard, your computer may have trouble booting at all. So if you need one of these chips, I recommend using the X570 board instead. Not only do they boot reliably, but you can upgrade to a 16-core chip without worrying about the board overheating. Most older boards can't get that far. The fact is, new boards don't come cheap. A good choice like the ASUS X570-Plus or the Gigabyte Aorus Elite costs $200. A decent choice like the Gigabyte Gaming X or the ASUS Prime X570-P still costs $170. That's a significant jump from the widely recommended MSI B450 Tomahawk, which recently cost around $100. This is the price difference between my 6-core 3600X and my 8-core 3700X. You don't have to sacrifice core count just to get a reliable motherboard. Alternatively, you can wait for MSI to release the "Max" versions of their older motherboards, which are said to receive multiple updates to their physical components. so that they boot just as reliably as X570 boards. But there is no ETA and announced prices in this regard. So 5 stars for the processors, but 2 stars for how they are treated by the motherboard manufacturers. AMD may also have waited a long time to ship test chips to manufacturers, as they are notorious for disclosing information to create hype. Given how different these processors are from the previous generation, such a chain of events could explain the problems we're seeing.
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