They run small. Yes, they measure 8 inches from outside edge to outside edge, but overall they're smaller than most, including those you can buy at your local discount store. When I first bought them, a pack of 20, I only received 10. Customer service was no help and said they would escalate my complaint to someone else for a decision. Nothing more is heard from them. Both times I've ordered them, they arrived damaged, quite badly dented. Packing and shipping should be handled very carefully as they are very fragile. Order at your own risk. If you get your complete order intact, you're one of the lucky ones. And don't expect customer service to help. They can be worth the price if you get your complete order and they're all usable and undamaged, but there are cheaper ones at Revain. Much luck
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