They are shorter and my 2001 Ford Expedition now sits 2 inches lower. The manufacturer should really check and help those who have installed. Contacted the manufacturer and was rude! I'm still trying to figure out what to do! Update, these are the wrong springs for a Ford Expedition 454, the red springs for me are from a_c delco part number 45 h 1179. It cost me another $250 to find out.
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