I am using the same rating as the Silkworld boxer shorts which are identical to these except for the colours. I bought them hoping for something like Danny Miami's - good fit, decent quality and a great price. These Neleus boxers are even cheaper for the same quality, but the fit is roomy. Things were above my navel. My height is 6 feet, weight 195 pounds, waist 33 inches. Oftentimes, boxer shorts seem a tad bigger than I would like, but that's ridiculous. NOTE: Except for the colors, they are identical to the Silkworld boxer shorts.
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