I'm giving a bad review just because it's so damn hard to tell if you're ordering the right size. I'm sure some people can figure that out, get the right size and love these chains, but the hassle of doing all the research and making sure you get the right size just to get under the car and figure out what they are . don't fit and you have to send them back and wait for a refund and then order another set and wait for them to turn up etc etc I'm not even sure you can blame this company maybe it's the whole "tire chain". Industry doing everything wrong. It was a big problem anyway, and I ended up at my local auto parts store. Good luck and make sure you order the right size.