Update - 9/1/21 - My back and neck hurt a lot from using this bag as a purse or backpack... and I can't use it don't use it at all anymore. The only thing I can attribute to this change is the bag. Very nice bag. All metal zippers make loud noise when walking. It is in order. It's heavier than expected and not very comfortable as a backpack as the straps don't support it very much.
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