I got then the right size for length, but I should have gotten the wider width. I have had to find a new insole solution to make up for this, but it has worked out well. These are a "lighter" boot than my old Redwing 2405's, meaning that the foot area is not lined with any cloth or other material outside of the toe box (for shape?) like the Redwings are. However, they have broken in really well, and this took a few days, some sprays with 1:1 rubbing alcohol and distilled water to help stretch, and some Huberd's shoe grease. However, my Redwings benefited from all of these things as well. I have walked miles straight in them and while they are not a walking shoe, they did just fine. I like them really well, and they look like a nice casual shoe with pants so I can wear them to church. The soles do seem to grip well, but they are noisy on hardwood and many other indoor hard floor surfaces. You can't be very stealthy. I think that the construction is top notch. Yes, the top eyelet grommet has some little metal prongs that are not hammered down well and can both hurt your fingers and snag the stock laces. I stopped using the top holes and allis well. I am glad I bought them, and glad my size was not $170 at the time of ordering, I would have been way bummed by that. Note that not all sizes are returnable, that is why i have stuck with them to make them work. I am pleased overall though, but next time I will get the wide and choke down the extra cost. Note though that the reports of this shoe's comfort and support are exaggerated to me. If you are familiar with the foot-beds in Chaco sandals or Birkenstock shoes, I would call that approach to arch support well done. I own both of those and I love them dearly. Comparatively, the insole for this Thorogood model is flat, as is the sole under it inside the shoe. Not horrible, and in all fairness, it is very similar to the stock insole Redwings come with, but for my needs I would have had to approach other insole alternatives anyway. I have no medical problems with my feet, but my arches really like the better support in other brands that go for both comfort and proper support. My feet aren't yours, though. And, either way, these are really, really well made, and they look great. For e, after a few days, maybe a week, they feel great as well. However, I have not had to be this dedicated to a pair of shoes for break-in since my childhood. I think it was the stiffness of the sole, the leather is super soft immediately and only gets better. Maybe a tad thinner than my Redwings, but quality all the same.
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