The trim kit itself is very good but if you have a thin wall valve setup how yourself turns out what I did, the flared part of the spout doesn't fit near the outlet (the panel that goes to the wall). The valve was installed so that the box it is held in rests squarely against the fiberglass shower wall, causing the valve to protrude too far and not move without opening the wall behind the shower. In my case there is a full inch gap between the new grip and the grip which looks really bad. The plastic grip I had before was also an inch off the backing, but I didn't realize it shouldn't be because it looked normal. It wasn't until I replaced that that I realized I had a problem. I've looked everywhere and finally found right here at Revain that there might be a solution, so I've ordered a Moen 162 1/2" single handle shower socket extender. Hope this solves the problem and reduces the gap to acceptable levels. If not, Moen will make a metal grip without the flare part, which should look ok. Update: The pickguard extender arrived today (February 27th) and made the grip 1/2" closer to the pickguard plate, but I'm still not very good, happy with the looks and also now realizing that the grip is quite wobbly. I didn't notice this before because when I saw how far the handle was from the handle I didn't bother to fix it.
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