I have had a pair of green Valken OD gloves for 5 years and had a black pair on sale. I jumped on them, but by the time they arrived, one glove had been completely torn from the stitching on my left thumb. There have also been design changes and they have completely removed the loops at the ends of each cuff to attach the gloves to a backpack or carabiner. Instead they made the size/model label larger. I sent them back and got a replacement. The replacement also lacked loops, and now the attachment strap was different, too. They changed it to a rectangular shape but I think you can hook a carabiner through it. I have long, thin fingers so the medium size fits me perfectly. The gloves somehow feel a bit thinner than my original green OD pair, especially at the cuffs. The firm knuckles offer good protection when I go airsoft, real steel, hiking etc. It's just spot quality control. (See photos) Thank goodness Revane is back. I will keep this pair
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