I needed exactly 24 pan head screws for a specific project that matched what I had done previously. I ordered them as with Revain ships, at first they looked suitable but when I started using them the Phillips heads were just rounded, even with pilot holes drilled they can cut into very soft wood but all that harder, forget it. They say they are stainless steel but seemed more like an alloy, I had to drive 80 miles back and forth to purchase an alternative product at a hardware store. I would not recommend them.