You are awesome. I wear them under Pearl Canyon shorts as they are far superior to a standard liner. Instead of a material-wrapped elastic to keep the short legs in place, they use a large surface area in a comfortable material. The waste strip is well stitched and very comfortable. The material where the sit bones come into contact with the seat is also non-mesh, reducing the friction the seat puts on your butt on a bumpy road. I have several liners but if not washed between trips. I take them out of the hamper and put them back on. Don't judge too harshly, they really are a lot better.
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