Experienced conditioner, 22 years experience. I've tasted three bottles of this now because I couldn't believe how bad each bottle was and figured there must be something with the production of this batch. I've tried new buckets, new guards, new sponges to make sure it's not something else and no - none of that worked - the soap is the problem. Complete garbage product. I'll tell you why This soap does not foam at all. Calling it "high foam" would be a crime because it has the flattest, worst foam I've ever used. You can't wash more than one panel until the foam dries and goes into the bucket, and you only wash the car with water. The volatile foam you get initially isn't even very good. First, the instructions don't make sense. Fill a five gallon bucket with water THEN add soap for a full 2-3 ounces? It won't do anything, you are given a bar of soap in a bucket of clean water, as you would expect from common sense. No car wash soap has such instructions. Not to mention that every other car wash soap pretty much says to use a full cap per 5 gallon bucket. So let's try to do it in a reasonable way by first putting the soap in the bucket and then filling the bucket to foam the soap. Medium ray, strong ray? No matter how you pour or stir the soap when filling the bucket, the foam will loosen and disappear in the bucket after 2 minutes no matter how you do it. Temperatures above 60, cloudy cool day - optimal washing conditions. No foam. Temperature 70-80s - no foam. Washable cars are covered by McKee's for all "synergy" purposes. Anyway, no foam. Double concentric - never mind, no foam. McKee's will surely say it's user error or tell me to buy another McKee product to make the lather. This soap just doesn't work. It literally takes 7-10 buckets to wash a small/medium sized car as you have to pour flat water with no foam every few plates and try a different bucket. Tried this soap several times on several cars - all McKee coated - and each time the result was the same. This is the last machine I made today. I got bored mid wash and went back to another soap I've used in the past and it had suds to die for so no, not user error. Mixing soap with water isn't rocket science, it should just work. It just doesn't do and is very frustrating to use. A painted car that's pretty damn clean to begin with is always easy to wash - sleek, smooth and quick - but that's definitely not the case with this one. Your original SiO2 car wash is pretty decent, this "upgraded" stuff is hot junk.
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