I went through 7 pages of results to find these great loops and it was well worth it. I used them to install a 2 x 12 aged patio tile on the railing to create a beautiful bar counter. Thought I could use all 8 but it's so durable with only 2 on each end I'll be left with 4 for another project. I used the gray decking screws on the side of the posts to better attach the wood and used the included screws to go into the surface of the pole.