Do not recommend. Previously a good product for wearing with boots. XL socks too short compared to previously purchased socks of same size and type. Return process is very cumbersome and long. Lots of emails back and forth, what is your order number, when purchases, now send photos, now complete required RMA by hand and take to FedEx (not USPS or UPS like Best Buy). Definitely not an Best Buy-like, no-hassle return process. 1980 called and they want their return process back!See full review