We received them at our local welding consumables store after a delivery problem. We figured that if they didn't work we would be in the same position we were already in with very little investment. Got them for a thermodynamic plasma with a CNC bench cutter (I'm not in the shop to look at the exact model or I'd work rather than write a review) but in short. They work, they don't last as long but because of the price difference I will definitely buy them from now on assuming there is a steady supply.
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