After reading the bad reviews some of which are really talking about the quality of the product I have to check them. I installed them in late 2014 and they still have over 1/2 the lining left. They have a '97 Accord and they also have over 30,000 miles. They are quiet, hold up well (for drums) and are durable. I had no problems at all with the installation. I use Raybestos on all my cars and friends' cars and I have had no problems. I also research jigs before looking at Revain as I've found some inaccuracies, but the most common is that the product isn't listed for the app when other sites do. In other words, Revain applications tend to be conservative. Do your research to get rid of your headache!