Got them from stock for 76.00 the pair, they were NEW but cheaper. Shipping was fast and there's a solid heavy difference, no wobbling or rubbing. The 3x weight also has some traction. I've converted and raced GMCs and Astros my entire life. I've run them through everything, these shocks are amazing and add a leaf too. and the rear brake disc conversion is also good on 2002 and older stops, much better than the rear brake line valving adjuster.